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    Has anyone had experience with gall stones? Where you able to treat them without removing the gall bladder? I NEED MINE. I often practice a paleo diet and have high fat /protein food that needs the extra shot of bile that the organ stores. We will know soon enough if gall stones are what is causing the problem or its something else but in the mean time I am interested in natural remedies that are effective at disolving them. I wouldn't like life without bacon binges but the pain and potentially life threatening conditions of blockage requires a drastic treatment .

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    Root I had my gallbladder removed when I was 35. I guess I didn't know I had a problem. They couldn't find my gallbladder after 3 attempts with imaging .. they kept asking if I was sure I didn't have it previously removed! They did laparoscopic surgery and with some difficulty found my gallbladder, it had lost the bile and was shrunk around a very large gallstone. I don't know anyone that has done well with any of the diets they tried.. and eventually ended up having theirs removed too.

    I hope you find something that will work and feel better soon.
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    there is one home remedy that i heard over the years that might help, a gallbladder flush.


    1. Eat only whole foods (un-refined foods) without fat for a whole day.
    2. About an hour before bedtime (on an empty stomach), drink -cup of extra virgin cold pressed olive oil mixed with -cup of freshly squeezed lemon juice. Repeat this process every 15 minutes until a total of 1 cup each of olive oil and lemon juice is finished. An alternative to this procedure is to replace lemon juice with freshly-squeezed grapefruit juice. cup of grapefruit juice can be used each time. A total of 1 to 2 cups of grapefruit juice is required. It works well and tastes better than lemon juice.
    3. Go to bed immediately and lie on your right side.
    4. The next morning take 1 litre (approximately 4 cups) of warm distilled or filtered water containing two level teaspoons of un-iodized sea salt. Alternatively the addition of juice from half a lemon may be used in place of the sea salt.
    5. Eat only softly cooked vegetables and broth the second day. The gallstones should come out some time during the second day.
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    That makes sense to me. I can totally see how that is similar to the Bacon diet that I created and just lost 40lbs on in 32 days .
    I could easily modify that recipe to a Cubano Moho just fry some garlic in the oil first and pour in sour orange juice or lime. And reduce. Sounds much better than plain olive oil.

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    Hope it all works, but that 1/4 cup olive oil, just reminds me of castor oil to much.
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    3lb of crisp bacon sounds a lot better.

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    Even a 1/4 cup of bacon drippings should be able to make it have a good contraction.

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    I've heard they can use ultrasound to break up the stones.
    I had mine out on Jan. 9, 1990. Back then it was the slice version so I have the 6 inch scar. That's not the funny part.
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    Since you've asked, I am weighing in with my 2-cents worth here...

    About 85% of gallstones are made up of cholesterol that is produced by our livers and are not properly "used by our bodies"...also, IMO they could also contain dietary cholesterol also not used or metabolized by our bodies; SO if it was me, I would follow Stumpy's (our resident medical professional) advice to-the-letter as he has outlined it...it is only for 2 days, so what's to lose and maybe lots to gain...

    Since almost all gallstones are cholesterol in nature it doesn't, IMO, make sense to add cholesterol in an effort to flush them out.
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    Additional info re: gallstones

    Gallstones
    may develop when there is too much cholesterol in the bile secreted by your liver. Bile usually dissolves or breaks down cholesterol. But if your liver makes more cholesterol than your bile can dissolve, hard stones may develop.Jul 25, 2012
    www.healthline.com/health/gallstonesHealthline Networks




    and further info...

    Risk factors

    By Mayo Clinic Staff
    Factors that may increase your risk of gallstones include:

    • Being female
    • Being age 60 or older
    • Being an American Indian
    • Being a Mexican-American
    • Being overweight or obese
    • Being pregnant
    • Eating a high-fat diet*
    • Eating a high-cholesterol diet*
    • Eating a low-fiber diet*
    • Having a family history of gallstones
    • Having diabetes
    • Losing weight very quickly*
    • Taking some cholesterol-lowering medications
    • Taking medications that contain estrogen, such as hormone therapy drugs

      *Maybe all that bacon and 40 lbs of weight lost very quickly????




    BTW, my Mama used to say being "fair, fat and 40" was a recipe for gallstones...
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    Thats putting 2+2 together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    • Eating a low-fiber diet*
    • I could eat a little more fiber I suppose

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    I had mine out in 2004 and it was full of stones.

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    Rapid weight loss can cause fatty liver, which may degenerate to fulmanent hepatic failure.
    Further, rapid weight loss diets, especially those high in protein, may cause gallstones.
    OK OK so 40lbs in 30 days is too much but I look and feel Fabulous
    Talk to your Doctor about preventing this with a therapy of either
    Chenodiol is used for: Treating gallstones in certain patients. It may also be used for other conditions as determined by your doctor. Chenodiol is a bile acid naturally found in the body It works by dissolving the cholesterol that makes gallstones and inhibiting production of cholesterol in the liver and absorption in the intestines, which helps to decrease the formation of gallstones. It can also reduce the amount of other bile acids that can be harmful to liver cells when levels are elevated.
    Do NOT use chenodiol if:

    • you are allergic to any ingredient in chenodiol
    • you are pregnant
    • you have certain liver problems or bile duct problems (eg, blockage, inflammation, biliary cirrhosis)
    • you have certain gallbladder problems or certain types of gallstones
    • you have complications from gallstones or you will be having gallbladder surgery
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    Ursodiol is used for:Treating and preventing gallstones. It may also be used for other conditions as determined by your doctor.
    Ursodiol is a bile acid naturally found in the body. It works by dissolving the cholesterol that makes gallstones and inhibiting production of cholesterol in the liver and absorption in the intestines, which helps to decrease the formation of gallstones. It can also reduce the amount of other bile acids that can be harmful to liver cells when levels are elevated.
    Do NOT use ursodiol if:

    • you are allergic to any ingredient in ursodiol
    • you have blockage of the bile duct
    • Gallstones are hard particles that develop in the gallbladder.

    Imbalances in the substances that make up bile cause gallstones.
    Gallstones may form if bile contains too much cholesterol,
    too much bilirubin,
    or not enough bile salts.
    Scientists do not fully understand why these imbalances occur.

    • The gallbladder is not an essential organ, which means a person can live normally without a gallbladder.
    • Once the gallbladder is removed, bile flows out of the liver through the hepatic and common bile ducts and directly into the duodenum,
    • instead of being stored in the gallbladder.

    AND hard particles that developed in the gallbladder HARDEN THE LIVER

    Nonsurgical Treatments for Cholesterol Gallstones Nonsurgical treatments are used only in special situations, such as when a person with cholesterol stones has a serious medical condition that prevents surgery. Gallstones often recur within 5 years after nonsurgical treatment.6
    Two types of nonsurgical treatments can be used to dissolve cholesterol gallstones:

    • Oral dissolution therapy. Ursodiol (Actigall) and chenodiol (Chenix) are medications that contain bile acids that can dissolve gallstones. These medications are most effective in dissolving small cholesterol stones. Months or years of treatment may be needed to dissolve all stones.
    • Shock wave lithotripsy. A machine called a lithotripter is used to crush the gallstone. The lithotripter generates shock waves that pass through the person’s body to break the gallstone into smaller pieces. This procedure is used only rarely and may be used along with ursodiol.

    She may not be 100% right but I think she is onto something , But I am not doing any coffee enemas


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    You know, I'm done trying to help.

    All you do is blow me off like a prom dress on a virgin.

    I just changed professions. I now drive a garbage truck. That's right a garbage truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy McDugal View Post
    You know, I'm done trying to help.

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    I just changed professions. I now drive a garbage truck. That's right a garbage truck.
    What days do you guys pick up couches and such?
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    I have a toilet to the curb.. Maybe I should call it as a 'Curb Alert'? Slightly used and still looks like new with maybe some pressure spraying of the bottom..........

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    If'n i had gall bladder issues I would do the flush Stumpy and the doctor in the above video advise--can't hurt and might help...ROOT, if you do it, please let us know your results.
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    I am still waiting to have the MRI and an official diagnosis with picture of what we are physically up against I haven't overlooked the advice at all. Just don't want to stimulate a premature attack if its a bag of grit, and educating myself to the alternatives for prevention of new one You can't even imagine the pain for two 16 hour bouts My gut still feels like a country fried steak that's been through the tenderizer and it hurts to cough.

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