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    Wonder if this really works? I end up throwing away a lot of produce that goes bad...I love fresh produce and usually overbuy more than I can use before it goes bad. The problem I see here, is that in the video it is said that they only last for 2 months.

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    I tried them and was not happy with the results. The produce stayed fresh a little longer but not much.
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    Amazon has them...the reviews are all over the place...I think they are kinda pricey and maybe I should just try and be smarter about how I shop.

    http://www.amazon.com/Peak-Fresh-Re-...h+produce+bags

    I do shop using my Chase/Amazon credit card and always have a few dollars in Amazon to "shop with points" so I'll think about giving them a try...but, my gut tells me that it may not be a good purchase for me. To pay for themselves I'd have to throw away more than $8 worth of stuff in a two month period. Also, I am concerned about the reviews that says they are very small with the box claiming they are 12" x 16"...something is askew here.

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    I tried them and was not happy with the results. The produce stayed fresh a little longer but not much.
    Thanx Jeannie, I think you've made the decision for me.
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    I don't buy more produce than we can use within a 5-6 day span.

    No problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeannie View Post
    I tried them and was not happy with the results. The produce stayed fresh a little longer but not much.
    I agree and I find it isn't worth it.

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    I try to buy my produce every few days. I have found out the days the new produce is received on the small side markets and in Publix and Winn Dixie. Makes it easier to get fresh. When I see soft Roma tomatoes I know they have been sitting there awhile
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    We have a produce compartment in our fridge for our produce and it works great!!!!

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    AiroCide PPT Kills Airborne Mold, Fungi & Bacteria
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    Inexpensive to operate About Ethylene Gas (C2H4):

    Ethylene (C2H2) is an odorless, colorless gas naturally produced and released by most fresh fruits and vegetables as a ripening agent.

    Ethylene gas is also an ever-present pollutant resulting from exhaust fumes from internal combustion engines (including propane-powered forklifts), improperly vented greenhouse heaters, industrial waste, etc…

    Ripening fruit is well known for producing ethylene. However, other plant tissues also produce this gas and can lead to decay and wilting. Even when cut from the growing plant, fruits, vegetables, and flowers are still alive and respiring. Gaseous respiration products of fruits and vegetables, production by normal healthy flower and plant tissue, chopped or damaged leaf tissue, and diseased leaves and tissues can be significant sources of ethylene.


    The Role of Ethylene Gas:

    Ethylene, also known as the “ripening hormone” plays a regulatory role in many processes of plant growth, development and senescence/decaying.

    Fruits, vegetables and flowers contain receptors which serve as bonding sites to absorb ethylene molecules. The common practice of placing a kiwi, avocado or banana in a bag to hasten ripening is an example of the action of ethylene on produce: increased levels of ethylene contained within the bag,released by the produce itself, serve as a stimulant to initiate the production of more ethylene. The overall effect is to hasten ripening, aging and eventually spoilage.

    A refrigerator acts in a similar way: while kept closed to retain the desired temperature, it also enables an increased concentration of built-up ethylene. Any closed environment, such as a truck trailer, reefer container, ships hold or warehouse will have a similar effect.


    Why Control Ethylene?

    The effects of ethylene gas damage is common to us all: shrinkage of fresh produce and flower bulbs; spotting of leafy vegetables and eggplants; yellowing of cucumbers; broccoli and Brussels sprouts; increase odor and sprouting of garlic and onions; wilting of vegetables and cut flowers; scald and loss of crunch in apples; and rind breakdown in citrus fruit. Controlling ethylene levels preserves freshness.

    Within the industry, it is estimated that losses directly related to ethylene run into billions of dollars annually. Removal of ethylene from the storage and shipping environment delays spoilage, reduces loss and increases profit.
    Ethylene will penetrate most substances. It will permeate through produce cardboard shipping boxes, wood and even concrete walls.

    Ethylene is harmful to many fruits, vegetables, and floral items. While ethylene is invaluable due to its ability to initiate the ripening process in several fruits, it can also be very harmful to many fruits, vegetables, flowers, and plants by accelerating the aging process and decreasing the product quality and shelf life. The degree of damage depends upon the concentration of ethylene, length of exposure time, and product temperature. One of the following methods should be used to ensure that ethylene-sensitive produce is not exposed:

    • 1. Ethylene producing items (such as apples, avocados, bananas, melons, peaches, pears, tomatoes…) should be stored separately from ethylene-sensitive ones (broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, leafy greens, lettuce, etc.). Also, ethylene is emitted by engines. Propane, diesel, and gasoline powered engines all produce ethylene in amounts large enough to cause damage to the ethylene-sensitive produce items mentioned
    • 2. Ventilate the storage area, preferably to the outside of the warehouse, on a continuous or regular basis to purge the air of any ethylene.
    • 3. Remove ethylene with ethylene absorbing filters. These have been proven in reducing and maintaining low ethylene levels. If ethylene damage is suspected, a quick and easy way to detect ethylene levels is with hand held sensor tubes. This will indicate if the above steps should be followed.



    Ethylene has been scientifically proven to cause:

    • • Increase in respiration
    • • Water loss/weight loss
    • • Yellowing or spotting
    • • Production of more ethylene
    • • Accelerated ripening, ageing and decay
    • • Reduction in nutrient content (e.g. loss of vitamin C)
    • • Taste and aroma changes, off-flavors such as bitterness
    • • Loss of leaves and flowers, sprouting, toughening





    Demonstration of ethylene gas effects on various fruits, vegetables, and flowers:

    Avocados

    Banana

    Plantain

    Papaya

    Lime

    Cucumber

    Tomato

    Carnations

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    My point

    Why not manufacture a device with these granules to hang inside the produce drawer and absorb the gasses, Add a oxygen absorber too
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROOT View Post
    My point

    Why not manufacture a device with these granules to hang inside the produce drawer and absorb the gasses, Add a oxygen absorber too
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    Do Green Bags Really Work?
    Written by Anna Haas, St. Joseph's Academy (St. Louis, MO)

    In the 1990’s, scientists looking for a way to prolong the lifespan of produce in preparation for a trip to Antarctica discovered an area in Japan that for thousands of years had been successfully housing and storing produce in mountain caves. The mountains were composed of clay called oya, which contains zeolite, a naturally occurring desiccant.
    The Michigan Science Teachers Association (MSTA) Journal of Fall 2010 states that green bags combine this ancient Japanese knowledge on how to keep produce fresh using oya with modern technology.
    The zeolite in oya is a mineral that naturally absorbs oxygen. In addition, according to the March 25, 1989 edition of New Scientist, zeolite is able to absorb ethylene gas. Ethylene gas (C2H4) is a compound released by most produce that increases the natural rate of ripening.

    Naturally occurring zeolite is found in volcanogenic sedimentary rocks. According to the Mineral Information Institute, there are about 50 naturally occurring zeolites, each with a framework structure composed of large open cavities filled with cations and water. The porous structure of zeolite can accommodate a wide variety of cations, such as Na+, K+, Ca2+, and Mg2+. Because of these large cavities, the water and ions within the framework are able to move about easily. Zeolites are also noted for their ability to lose and regain water over and over again, a process also known as reversible dehydration. These properties allow zeolites to be used every day in things like laundry detergent, cat litter, and water purification.

    The April, 1999, publication of ChemMatterssays that pellets of zeolite are used by various produce companies to remove ethylene from the atmosphere of produce when they are being transported. This zeolite, which is also used in Green Bags, is saturated with potassium permanganate (KMnO4), a good oxidizing agent. (An oxidizing agent is a compound that acts as an acceptor of electrons.) Potassium permanganate works as an oxidizer of ethylene gas.

    Potassium permanganate is able to safely remove ethylene gas to very low levels. Healthy Harvest, a food supply company, explains that when potassium permanganate reacts with ethylene the chemicals change into a harmless potassium oxide and carbon dioxide.

    According to the MSTA Journal, every fruit gives off a different amount of ethylene and is affected by ethylene differently. Catalytic Generators LLC, a company that produces ethylene application systems that ripen fruit, says

    “ethylene producing items (such as apples, bananas, melons, peaches, pears, and tomatoes)
    should be stored separately from
    ethylene-sensitive ones (broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, leafy greens, lettuce, etc.).”

    Whether or not green bags work is often quite controversial. The Homemade Baby Food Recipes Blog sent out a survey regarding Green Bags and discovered that 65% of its readers said they work as advertised, 20% were disappointed, and 15% found they worked but still had some reservations.
    Do green bags work? KFVS Heartland News in southeastern Missouri tested green bags in 2008 and came to the conclusion that they do not effectively keep produce fresher. For the experiment one banana was left out on the counter and one was placed in a green bag. They returned 30 days later to find that both bananas were equally brown and spoiled. The green bag company claimed that the bags “work better on produce picked right off the vine.” The experiment conducted by KFVS used store bought fruit that had been shipped from elsewhere.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    Great idea!
    Interesting topic, we wast too much on spoiled produce.
    I don't think we would use the bags but I certainly am going to investigate a filter or cartridge that could go into the fridge.
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    I find when shopping, especially when the produce is really fresh and looks so good I tend to buy more than I can use before it goes bad. I love the yellow squash, zucchini, tomatoes, cukes and various kinds of lettuces...and then I figure out that there aren't enough meals to make in the time before some of it goes bad. Throw in going out to eat a time or two that was unplanned and ... Well, I think most people know how that goes. The European way of shopping almost daily for your food is a smart idea IMO.
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    Thats what happens at this address.
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    I would imagine it happened at a lot of addresses.
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    Yes here too
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    Like tonight, I have fresh veggies in my fridge and not feeling like standing with my bone-on-bone arthritic knees on concrete floors and fix a dinner and then have to clean up the mess, I went to Wendy's drive-thru and got a salad.
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