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    Apparently for the front runners only black lives matter. They just could not bring themselves to say all lives matter when asked the question, I guess for fear of losing the black vote.
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    Default Debate - What Lives Matter

    Responding to a recorded question on whether black lives or all lives matter?

    Sanders – black lives matter
    Clinton – agreed black lives matter
    O'Malley – black lives matter
    Web – every life matters (that’s enough not to be the nominee, why would anyone think all lives matter)
    Chafee – don’t think he responded and if he did no one was listening

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    To hell with the rest of the country just pander to one race of people, that is apparently who several of these candidates prefer to represent as the President.
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    Ah, the haters continue to hate. So sad....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastcar View Post
    Ah, the haters continue to hate. So sad....
    One side thinks all lives matter another think only black lives matter. Your right, haters continue to hate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Apparently for the front runners only black lives matter. They just could not bring themselves to say all lives matter when asked the question, I guess for fear of losing the black vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    To hell with the rest of the country just pander to one race of people, that is apparently who several of these candidates prefer to represent as the President.
    Actually what they avoided was getting into a "gotcha" situation as the "all lives matter" is being used primarily by "pro-life" proponents and these guys support pro-choice, not to be confused as pro-abortion.

    No rational thinking person would think that these candidates don't also think that WASP, Asian, Native American or any other people's lives matter. Of course, there will always be those who will try and twist it around and make unfounded accusations--those folks would never vote for these guys anyway, so it actually matters not.
    Last edited by KathyInAR; October 14th, 2015 at 09:26 AM. Reason: to change "are" to "support"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    One side thinks all lives matter another think only black lives matter. Your right, haters continue to hate.
    No, it just means that sometimes people don't know what they don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    Actually what they avoided was getting into a "gotcha" situation as the "all lives matter" is being used primarily by "pro-life" proponents and these guys are pro-choice, not to be confused as pro-abortion.

    No rational thinking person would think that these candidates don't also think that WASP, Asian, Native American or any other people's lives matter. Of course, there will always be those who will try and twist it around and make unfounded accusations--those folks would never vote for these guys anyway, so it actually matters not.
    I have never heard that reasoning before. Of course that is not to say maybe some are pro-life.

    I think it may be more about making race the topic of conversation. If all lives mattered race does not mean anything. How can a society ever get beyond race with this type of rhetoric?
    And of course O'Malley had to apologize by saying all lives matter. The world is upside down and it looks like that is how the Dems want it or they are scared to death to lose one black vote. The Democratic Party wants to play the race card and be socialists.

    I guess Web may as well drop out now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    I have never heard that reasoning before. Of course that is not to say maybe some are pro-life.

    I think it may be more about making race the topic of conversation. If all lives mattered race does not mean anything. How can a society ever get beyond race with this type of rhetoric?
    And of course O'Malley had to apologize by saying all lives matter. The world is upside down and it looks like that is how the Dems want it or they are scared to death to lose one black vote. The Democratic Party wants to play the race card and be socialists.

    I guess Web may as well drop out now.
    It could mean that O'Malley, like you was unaware or even that he supports pro-life as opposed to pro-choice. I think it is pretty obvious that people who want to ensure that everyone has opportunities to reach their "God-given potential" regardless of their current status in life feel that all people in this country matter.

    Again, i don't think a rational thinking person believes that anyone is advocating or believe that the US would become a totally socialist country. I am sure that you realize that Sanders makes it known that he is a Democratic Socialist a different animal than the totally socialist countries. He'd like us to become more democratic-socialist than we currently are but he seems to be the only person running for the Democratic nomination that is...liberal and progressive are not the same as socialist.

    Some folks are beginning to sound like the "Commie-fear mongering" of the late-1950's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    It could mean that O'Malley, like you was unaware or even that he supports pro-life as opposed to pro-choice. I think it is pretty obvious that people who want to ensure that everyone has opportunities to reach their "God-given potential" regardless of their current status in life feel that all people in this country matter.
    What does black lives matter have to do with Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

    You don't think that I or OMalley are aware of our beliefs whatever they may be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    What does black lives matter have to do with Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

    You don't think that I or OMalley are aware of our beliefs whatever they may be?
    It doesn't have anything to do with it; however, some folks have co-opted the phrase and changed it to "all lives matter" to express their beliefs for pro-life.

    What I suggested (i.e., "it could mean") was that maybe O'Malley, like you (you said earlier that you weren't aware of this) weren't aware that this is the case. Please don't try and assign meaning to my words that I didn't imply. I feel that you constantly try to read more into my words than is actually there. Just read the words and take them at face value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    Actually what they avoided was getting into a "gotcha" situation as the "all lives matter" is being used primarily by "pro-life" proponents and these guys support pro-choice, not to be confused as pro-abortion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    What does black lives matter have to do with Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

    You don't think that I or OMalley are aware of our beliefs whatever they may be?
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    It doesn't have anything to do with it; however, some folks have co-opted the phrase and changed it to "all lives matter" to express their beliefs for pro-life.

    What I suggested (i.e., "it could mean") was that maybe O'Malley, like you (you said earlier that you weren't aware of this) weren't aware that this is the case. Please don't try and assign meaning to my words that I didn't imply. I feel that you constantly try to read more into my words than is actually there. Just read the words and take them at face value.
    Then say want you think and leave out the maybe's or anything that may imply something else that you have no knowledge of, instead of statements that may be taken different ways.

    Will you address my question? What does black lives matter have to do with Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    No, it just means that sometimes people don't know what they don't know.
    Ain't that the truth.

    You posted that it is being used primarily by "pro-life" proponents and these guys support pro-choice.. Now you post "It doesn't have anything to do with it"

    And do you think there is a possibility that "all lives do matter regardless of race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Then say want you think and leave out the maybe's or anything that may imply something else that you have no knowledge of, instead of statements that may be taken different ways.

    Will you address my question? What does black lives matter have to do with Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

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    Ain't that the truth.
    My first sentence/paragraph that you quoted, answered your question--I am done explaining this ... Either you understand or you don't. My guess is you don't like my response...you'd rather argue that it is a racial issue and that they favor Blacks at expense of others--if that is your belief, then feel all warm and fuzzy in that belief. You asked a question and made innuendos and I told you what I thought. Maybe you should ask those who answered the question if you really care, instead of just looking for an argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    My first sentence/paragraph that you quoted, answered your question--I am done explaining this ... Either you understand or you don't. My guess is you don't like my response...you'd rather argue that it is a racial issue and that they favor Blacks at expense of others--if that is your belief, then feel all warm and fuzzy in that belief. You asked a question and made innuendos and I told you what I thought. Maybe you should ask those who answered the question if you really care, instead of just looking for an argument.
    Sorry you take it that way.

    I am just seeking clarity and you apparently don't want to go any further. Your the one that brought up pro choice and pro life, I'm just trying to understand this concept.
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    Sorry you take it that way.

    I am just seeking clarity and you apparently don't want to go any further. Your the one that brought up pro choice and pro life, I'm just trying to understand this concept.
    I was as clear as I could be...I explained why I thought they answered the way they did...so as not to get caught up in a "Gotcha situation" and later being accused of flip flopping if they say "all lives matter" and also claiming to support pro-choice.

    Do you honestly think that Hillary and Bernie or any of the others think that only Black lives matter? IMO if they had answered "all lives matter" that would have opened them up to the pro-life folks attacking them when they later claim to be supportive of pro-choice. By the screen name you have chosen to use, I am assuming you are well-versed in the "gotcha" game. If my theory is correct, the candidates won this round of the game.
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    Yes, the cheating liberals will take a stance with any side they think they can garner the most votes from, and they have recognized the BLM movement as looking for recognition, so the liberal candidates have been catering to this racist group hand and foot hoping to gain a lot of votes to get to the White House. Liberals don't care how they get them votes as long as they win by any means possible, even if that means cheating and including using names of deceased persons!!!!!! The BLM movement is nothing more that the racist group Black Panthers with bullhorns stuck to their damn lips! There is no question about this! Those who choose to side with BLM will find this to be their undoing in the end. I have learned long ago that these liberals are a rude, racist, bigoted , etc. group that you will ever find anywhere on this earth! Pathetic is what they have become! They don't care if you are right, they love to argue anyway. Just watch.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    I was as clear as I could be...I explained why I thought they answered the way they did...so as not to get caught up in a "Gotcha situation" and later being accused of flip flopping if they say "all lives matter" and also claiming to support pro-choice.

    Do you honestly think that Hillary and Bernie or any of the others think that only Black lives matter? IMO if they had answered "all lives matter" that would have opened them up to the pro-life folks attacking them when they later claim to be supportive of pro-choice. By the screen name you have chosen to use, I am assuming you are well-versed in the "gotcha" game. If my theory is correct, the candidates won this round of the game.
    I think your trying to anticipation something before it were to happen. BLM is about African American's and the mis-treatment by some LE, and the killing of others recently.

    When a normal person is presented this question in the context of what the subject is about it should be all lives matter; black, white Asian, Indian etc. In the context of this question the candidates had a choice to make. Why they made the choice they did I don't think it was about pro-choice or pro-life. It was about votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    Maybe you should ask those who answered the question if you really care, instead of just looking for an argument.
    Anyone can make their comments known as we have. And I already responded to the only other poster besides you who have posted on this subject.
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    Black Lives Matter is a racist group.
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    Ever since Obama was elected, conservatives seem to have this humongous urge to deny the racism in this country that still exists. I'm guessing it's guilt for most of them.

    Racism exists.

    And it is evident in our judicial system and won't stop until people are made to be accountable.

    My dad was a cop. I don't EVER condemn cops without just reason. I truly believe MOST cops are damn decent ones and sacrifice too much for too little. I will speak up for them and defend them...because cops are hated too without reason. There are just some situations where it can't be done and too many that can't be defended.

    Out of those situations came "Black Lives Matter." And they do.
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