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    Trump should put his money where his mouth is ... He has done precious little where our veterans are concerned despite his big braggart mouth...can you say hypocrite???


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilycan...7#756dbafc6c9e


    It is obvious that any personal contributions he has made recently to help veterans and their families was done for political reasons and is self-serving. He is a disgrace and wouldn't make a pimple on the collective ass of our beloved veterans.
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    The article focus' on the Wounded Warrior Project, which I consider not a worthwhile charity as the amount of money that actually goes to the vets is a fraction of what they take in.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...nder-fire.html

    In interviews, critical veterans’ advocates and veterans charged that the Wounded Warrior Project cares more about its image than it does about helping veterans; that it makes public splashes by taking vets on dramatic skydiving trips but doesn’t do enough to help the long-term wellbeing of those injured in combat.
    I prefer to put my money into charities that have a better return rate to the cause they claim to be helping.

    I do believe in helping veterans just not this charity.... oh and as far as Trump goes I am not an advocate for him either
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    The article focus' on the Wounded Warrior Project, which I consider not a worthwhile charity as the amount of money that actually goes to the vets is a fraction of what they take in.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...nder-fire.html



    I prefer to put my money into charities that have a better return rate to the cause they claim to be helping.

    I do believe in helping veterans just not this charity.... oh and as far as Trump goes I am not an advocate for him either
    I too stopped my contributions to WWP early last year when I started hearing about their high salaries and such. In the article re: Trump and his contributions to veterans it stated that from 2009-2013 his foundation, which he didn't make contributions too; but rather solicited and raised $$$ from other contributors only gave $57K of millions of $$$ to veterans organizations. He doesn't seem to understand the concept of "walk the talk"...
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    thats a fact

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    Just another day of the "Trump show."

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    I agree regarding the WWP. As for Trump......any money to aid needy vets is good thing. As for his political aspirations... Thus far I've eliminated Rubio, Cruz, Carson and Bush for various reasons.

    I read Trumps tax plan and it seems doable. Also, I like a person who has the balls to say the hard things, rather than what people want to hear.

    With Trump, he's arrogant and mouthy. But in a way it is kinda like if you are injured and go to the ER, you really don't give a damn about the doctors bedside manner, you just want him/her to fix you. Imo this country is in need of a trip to the ER.

    Since Kathy mentioned Kasich awhile ago I've been listening and reading about him. Not really sure with him. He's a career politician that apparently pissed off a bunch of folks when he was gov. Gotta get more info.

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    A career politician doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing...it depends what their goals and how they go about doing "the people's work"--kinda like the difference between what many consider a career politician to be and a true statesman. IMO with Trump you can never be sure where he stands as he just recently admitted that he can be "whatever" people want him to be, that he can "change" to suit the situation and so on. He is like the crazy uncle at the family reunion who isn't afraid to say what he thinks; but, it doesn't mean he is suited to be president of the United States.

    By the way, I am liking Kasich more and more with each passing day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    A career politician doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing...it depends what their goals and how they go about doing "the people's work"--kinda like the difference between what many consider a career politician to be and a true statesman. IMO with Trump you can never be sure where he stands as he just recently admitted that he can be "whatever" people want him to be, that he can "change" to suit the situation and so on. He is like the crazy uncle at the family reunion who isn't afraid to say what he thinks; but, it doesn't mean he is suited to be president of the United States.

    By the way, I am liking Kasich more and more with each passing day.
    Change to suit the situation doesn't bother me. Nice to have a president that isn't afraid to change to a differing situation. At least he isn't reading a prepared script time after time after time.

    The thing with Kasich is he electable? Doesn't as yet appear so. Don't want Sanders. Speaking of Sanders saw him parading around with Sharpton yesterday on tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastcar View Post
    Change to suit the situation doesn't bother me. Nice to have a president that isn't afraid to change to a differing situation. At least he isn't reading a prepared script time after time after time.

    The thing with Kasich is he electable? Doesn't as yet appear so. Don't want Sanders. Speaking of Sanders saw him parading around with Sharpton yesterday on tv.
    I do not think that is the kind of change he meant, hence the quotation marks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    A career politician doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing...it depends what their goals and how they go about doing "the people's work"--kinda like the difference between what many consider a career politician to be and a true statesman. IMO with Trump you can never be sure where he stands as he just recently admitted that he can be "whatever" people want him to be, that he can "change" to suit the situation and so on. He is like the crazy uncle at the family reunion who isn't afraid to say what he thinks; but, it doesn't mean he is suited to be president of the United States.

    By the way, I am liking Kasich more and more with each passing day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastcar View Post
    Change to suit the situation doesn't bother me. Nice to have a president that isn't afraid to change to a differing situation. At least he isn't reading a prepared script time after time after time.

    The thing with Kasich is he electable? Doesn't as yet appear so. Don't want Sanders. Speaking of Sanders saw him parading around with Sharpton yesterday on tv.
    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    I do not think that is the kind of change he meant, hence the quotation marks.
    I think this is a good example of how Trump can "change" to suit wherever he feels people want to hear without regard to the truth...

    I forget who it was but one of the talking heads on TV was interviewing Trump a day or two ago and said to him, something to the effect that he couldn't find information anywhere or anyone who could verify or agree that Trump ever said he was against a war with Iraq before the start of the war.

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump...052320351.html

    and

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...the#.itlKOEVeW

    And

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...e-w#.sdwjG37Ng
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    I think this is a good example of how Trump can "change" to suit wherever he feels people want to hear without regard to the truth...

    I forget who it was but one of the talking heads on TV was interviewing Trump a day or two ago and said to him, something to the effect that he couldn't find information anywhere or anyone who could verify or agree that Trump ever said he was against a war with Iraq before the start of the war.

    https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump...052320351.html

    and

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...the#.itlKOEVeW

    And

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczyn...e-w#.sdwjG37Ng
    "Yeah, I guess so" isn't really a ringing endorsement, especially as it was 14 years ago. But I'm comfortable with it. Also if it works for you that's good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastcar View Post
    "Yeah, I guess so" isn't really a ringing endorsement, especially as it was 14 years ago. But I'm comfortable with it. Also if it works for you that's good too.
    I don't think it is important whether or not he was for or against it at the time in 2002/2003--what is significant is that he so easily lies about what his opinion was because he thinks it "proves something" when all it does is proves that like most politicians, he lies too, all the while calling everybody else a liar.
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    Sadly that is what it is down to.

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    They are all liars...I guess what it boils down to is, is it better to have a liar who knows what they are doing or a liar who doesn't know what they are doing? At any rate, I really fear we are going to be f**ked either way come November...what would happen if they gave an election and no one came?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    They are all liars...I guess what it boils down to is, is it better to have a liar who knows what they are doing or a liar who doesn't know what they are doing? At any rate, I really fear we are going to be f**ked either way come November...what would happen if they gave an election and no one came?
    That is about where I'm at. The one who lies and actually knows what they are doing is Hillary. Hard to stomach but it is what it is.

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    They fired another big mouth too. Patton! Wish we had done what he wanted to do!
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    They fired another big mouth too. Patton! Wish we had done what he wanted to do!
    Sure would have made things better today.

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    How would anyone draw the conclusion that clinton "actually knows" what she is doing?

    She cannot be herself, she has to be a continuation of obama, she has to be further left then Sanders. She afraid to go against any liberal thinking. And she sure is not going to be any bill clinton. She thinks she deserves it because of her gender.

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