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    It just dont seem right that the people of this country should shoulder the burden, of the extra secret service, just because the parents(the trumps) want to keep the kid in a new york school, it would seem the added cost of more security to protect his wife and kid is gonna be astronomical. even they are entitled to security by law, but this seems over and above, for a guy who dont seem to pay taxes. oh thats right, just let everyone else pay for it.

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    Now your concerned about the extra money for service. obama mother in law lived at the WH, traveled to China, air force 1 curses over NY for photos, 2013 Hawaii Christmas vacation trip to $8,098,060.33 paid by tax payers, as of 2012, obama and his family cost the taxpayers $1.4 billion per year.

    As I also recall obama supporters were indignant that people complained of the cost. After all he is the president of the United States and the protection extends to his family. Also mentioned that as parents the obamas have the right to send their children to any school. Why should being president change where their child goes to school?

    Liberals - "This is not a political football"

    Find something else to complaint about that may hold water.
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    well, i ask a very SIMPLE question and what comes back is a very SIMPLE reply, from a very, well i guess i'll stop

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    by the way, ya dont read very well, its understood his family gets protection as he does, lean to read dude, seems ya can just answer themildes of question wihout spining'em, heres the part you dont get , they will be living in two seperate locations, get the price difference yet?
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    The Obama and/or the MIL paid her expenses. I don't blame Melania, I wouldn't want to live with Turd-boy either. The news reports are that the local people have been greatly inconvenienced by them being at Trump Tower. It is reported that movement along there is almost at a standstill. It is one thing when a President is traveling and the public is inconvenienced for a day or two...months or years is going to be really disruptive. I realize this is their home, doesn't seem to be any good solutions at the time, especially if there is little cooperation...maybe it should have been considered before making the decision to run. Kinda like joining the military and expecting to be able to stay in one's hometown.

    BTW, I will add that Melanie appears to be a very devoted mother and I do admire her for that. My son, an Army brat and my grandboys also Army brats and their need to relocate (the grandboys to a lesser degree as their dad retired when they were 13 & 8)during growing up didn't hurt them, in fact, I would say it enriched their lives. The proof is in the pudding!
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    See, even she knows he's a pos he really is. Why would she want to live with him. Did you notice how, on many occasions, while in the company of DT, she referred to the kid as "my son" not "our son"?

    Maybe that thing about "little hands " is true. Money apparently can't buy everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    by the way, ya dont read very well, its understood his family gets protection as he does, lean to read dude, seems ya can just answer themildes of question wihout spining'em, heres the part you dont get , they will be living in two seperate locations, get the price difference yet?
    Should they be forced to live at the WH? Should there be a law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    The news reports are that the local people have been greatly inconvenienced by them being at Trump Tower.
    Not by them being at the Trump Towers but what is being done outside of the Trump Towers.

    Who is holding up the traffic news reporters or the secret service?
    Maybe a new law should basically state that the president elect should vacant his home and move to Andrews AFB where the president elect will conduct their transition teams work and any other work relating to taking office. Family and the president elect will reside in on base housing until being sworn into office. Reporters will remain 500 ft from the main gate of the base. Hows that?

    Conservatives understand that liberals now want things to change because a member of their party was elected that liberals do not like.
    It's a given.

    Anymore ridiculous thoughts?
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    Being fair or right has nothing to do with it. It is what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Should they be forced to live at the WH? Should there be a law?
    Military members can be forced to live on base/post/in gov't quarters with their families if available or not receive their BAQ (basis allowance for quarters).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Not by them being at the Trump Towers but what is being done outside of the Trump Towers.

    Who is holding up the traffic news reporters or the secret service?
    Maybe a new law should basically state that the president elect should vacant his home and move to Andrews AFB where the president elect will conduct their transition teams work and any other work relating to taking office. Family and the president elect will reside in on base housing until being sworn into office. Reporters will remain 500 ft from the main gate of the base. Hows that?

    Conservatives understand that liberals now want things to change because a member of their party was elected that liberals do not like.
    It's a given.

    Anymore ridiculous thoughts?
    It is the nature of the beast. I see you too would deny our folks their First Amendment rights. Any more ridiculous thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Should they be forced to live at the WH? Should there be a law?
    NO andNO, you serious though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Should they be forced to live at the WH? Should there be a law?
    bad case of i got all the answers

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    My what short memories we have!
    The Obama's left the girls with MIL in Chicago to finish school.
    Obama's are now staying in DC so one can finish HS.
    When the president travels alone and the wife and kids go on vacation to Spain, we paid for SS in two places.

    As for the military, they do try to make reassignments in June/July for those with kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundealer View Post
    My what short memories we have!
    The Obama's left the girls with MIL in Chicago to finish school.
    Obama's are now staying in DC so one can finish HS.
    When the president travels alone and the wife and kids go on vacation to Spain, we paid for SS in two places.

    As for the military, they do try to make reassignments in June/July for those with kids.
    You are right, short memories...I don't remember that the Obama girls didn't move to the White House until after the school year was over...I do recall that the MIL moved with them to help with the girls because their parents were expected to be very busy and traveling.

    As for staying in DC so the youngest will finish out the school year... they have to move in January, so where seems to be a moot issue...they are staying under one roof.

    Vacations are short periods of time, not months on end...

    I actually was an assignment manger at MILPERCEN (Military Personnel Center, Alexandria, VA, Hoffman Bldgs) during 1980-1982 and never ever were we told to make assignments around the school year nor did we ever consider whether service members were married (unless married to another service member), had children or their ages.

    Assignments were made based first, on the "needs of the Army"); then if a place was overstaffed in a particular MOS they were reassigned to an empty slot; then we selected volunteers from an assignment where they could be reassigned and someone from overseas could be assigned; and if it was to an overseas position and there was no volunteer the next person who had never been overseas or had been back the longest was used to fill the slot. Other variables might come into play; but never was the school year considered.

    The only move we made during the 17 years of my son's life that was not during the school year was when he finished up the 8th grade in Germany. We were not due to leave until the end of November of 1980; however, my husband was selected to fill a special liaison position at MILPERCEN at the request of the TJAG (The Judge Advocate General of the Army) and he was required to be there the end of May 1980. Instead of leaving in time to take leave back in the States since we had been gone for almost 3 years we opted not to take leave and left Germany 3 days before he had to report so that my son could finish out the school year; otherwise, we would have left several weeks before the end of school so that we could take leave and visit with other family members. Never, did anyone ask when was school finished?

    Funny story...While I was an assignment manager one of the MOS's for which I was responsible was for Hospital Food Service Techs. One day I received a call from this female SFC who was currently assigned to Brooks Army Medical Center at San Antonio (one of the choices Army assignments, especially for medical folks) who said she had called to "inform" me that she figured she would be coming up for an overseas assignment fairly soon and she had just bought a "very expensive" puppy and she wanted to make sure she wasn't reassigned. I checked the DROS (date last returned from overseas) roster and sure enough she was next on the list. I had to tell her that when the next requisition for an overseas assignment came in that if there were no volunteers, she would be reassigned. She tried to bully me and I asked if she'd like to speak to the Branch Sergeant Major and she said, "Yes," I think she was very sorry afterwards that she had asked to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundealer View Post
    My what short memories we have!
    The Obama's left the girls with MIL in Chicago to finish school.
    ...
    Maybe I can't remember it, because maybe it didn't happen...

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...e-school-year/

    ...

    Trump is not the first recent president to move to the White House with school age children. When President Barack Obama took office, daughters Sasha and Malia were 10 and 7. When Bill Clinton came to Washington, Chelsea Clinton was 12. All three White House kids moved during the school year and attended the Sidwell Friends, a private school in northwest Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    Military members can be forced to live on base/post/in gov't quarters with their families if available or not receive their BAQ (basis allowance for quarters).
    Is this just some information about military families or are you making a point about the President elect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    It just dont seem right that the people of this country should shoulder the burden, of the extra secret service, just because the parents(the trumps) want to keep the kid in a new york school, it would seem the added cost of more security to protect his wife and kid is gonna be astronomical. even they are entitled to security by law, but this seems over and above,...
    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    Maybe I can't remember it, because maybe it didn't happen...

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...e-school-year/
    Tell it to the one who began this ridicules thread.

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    pretty sure the only ridicules around here is you dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha View Post
    Tell it to the one who began this ridicules thread.
    Ridicules thread?? lol

    You have posted as many times as the person who started it.

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