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    you win

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    Do you know anyone who did, who was full time and then had hours cut to "part time" so that their employer wouldn't have to provide insurance according to the ACA? I don't.

    An interesting analysis here: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-to-obamacare/
    She refuse's to understand.

    Remember when most employer's offered paid medical? Where workers could go to any doctor? Then they dreamed up the HMO concept and it started to go on it's ass. Who do you think dreamed it up? Now workers are faced with jobs that don't provide medical coverage and no overtime to pay for it on their own.

    When these clowns and their supporters are done there will be no paid vacations, no paid holidays,10 hour days a 50+ hour work week no worker protection and no benefits of any kind. Pretty soon they will have us back to the sweat shop era.

    Social Security is next on the list then Medicaid and then Medicare.

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    Ah...the plot thickens...well, not really...

    A "good reason" for DJT to cozy up to this murderous thug...who also has ordered/threatened to order the US military out of the Philippines.

    http://elitedaily.com/news/politics/...erned/1890385/

    https://qz.com/798729/philippines-pr...ilitary-bases/

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    According to the Independent, Blumenfield also alleges that the president is set to earn "millions of dollars in licensing fees" when the new Trump Tower opens in Manila.

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    which he started building as soon as he was elected so that he could use all these international connections!!


    Why doesn't anyone understand that Trump had a life as a business person BEFORE becoming President??
    Unlike all the career politicians that run and live off the teat of the public, he was making his own money.
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    only you know he had a life as a business person, well the rest of us, we had to learn that from YOU wtf
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundealer View Post
    which he started building as soon as he was elected so that he could use all these international connections!!


    Why doesn't anyone understand that Trump had a life as a business person BEFORE becoming President??
    Unlike all the career politicians that run and live off the teat of the public, he was making his own money.
    Maybe that is just one of many frigging reasons he shouldn't be president...well, that and because he is an unprincipled ignorant unwilling-to-learn petulant man-child with no scruples. Government such as we have cannot be run on the fly nor by amateurs; it should not be made available for those to use for their own purposes.

    Do you think he should be able to develop his foreign policy based on what is good for the Trump Organization's bottom line? Conflict-of-Intrest, it is written into our laws. Should Trump be exempt? IMO impeachment proceedings should have already commenced...our Congress is delict in their duties as is the VPOTUS.
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    Furthermore the idiot-in-chief doesn't have the good sense to listen to sage advice unless it involves flattering him.

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ouse/22076286/
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    These folks have absolutely no shame, no scruples, no honor, no integrity or it would seem anything else that makes them decent American citizens when it comes to make a buck!

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ring/22076488/

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    According to the New York Times, the controversy occurred in Beijing Saturday when Meyer tried to solicit wealthy Chinese investors for a Kushner Companies real estate project in New Jersey called One Journal Square.

    She reportedly told attendees, "In 2008, my brother Jared Kushner joined the family company as CEO, and recently moved to Washington to join the administration." She has also been quoted as saying that the project "means a lot to me and my entire family."

    As Noah Bookbinder, with the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, told NPR, "It's highly problematic. It appears that Jared Kushner's family business is using his name and his official position to bring in investment."

    The event has also attracted controversy over its promotion of the EB-5 visa, a program which provides foreign citizens a path for legal U.S. residency if a minimum of $500,000 is invested in an eligible project.

    The Washington Post notes that an event brochure is even said to have featured the tagline, "Invest $500,000 and immigrate to the United States."
    http://www.businessinsider.com/ethics-experts-jared-kushner-china-visas-trump-2017-5

    'Very, very close to solicitation of a bribe':Ethics experts question Kushner relatives pushing White House connections in China

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    Ethics experts criticized White House senior adviser Jared Kushner's relatives for using White House connections to enhance a presentation to Chinese investors last weekend.

    Members of Kushner's family gave multiple presentations in China detailing an opportunity to "invest $500,000 and immigrate to the United States" through a controversial visa program and promoting ties to Kushner and President Donald Trump, according to media reports.

    Richard Painter, who was President George W. Bush's top ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007 and is now a professor at the University of Minnesota, told Business Insider the presentation was "obviously completely inappropriate."

    He added that the Kushner family "ought to be disqualified" from the EB-5 visa program they were promoting. The visa is awarded to foreign investors who invest at least $500,000 in US projects that create at least 10 full-time jobs.

    Trump renewed the EB-5 program, which provides a path to a green card, in the government spending bill passed last week. Trump's extension of the program, without any changes to it, came one day before the Kushner family initially pitched the program to Chinese investors.

    Painter said the latest ethics controversy was "more of the same" involving the Trump White House, which has found itself in a litany of ethical conflicts since Trump won the presidency in November.

    "Use of public office for private gain," Painter said. "There's a story every couple of days."

    Noah Bookbinder, the executive director of the liberal ethics-watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, told Business Insider that Kushner's family business "should not be benefiting" from his position in the White House.

    "If an investment ever led to access and influence, it would raise the specter of serious corruption violations," he said. "He should take immediate action to ensure that the businesses refrain from using his official position to promote investments. In fact, no Trump or Kushner companies should utilize the EB-5 program. The possibility for the appearance of improper influence, and perhaps worse, is too great."

    The latest controversy began when Kushner's sister Nicole Meyer delivered presentations to Chinese investors in Shanghai and Beijing that promoted $500,000 investments in the family's New Jersey real estate as a path to US residency. According to The New York Times, Meyer mentioned Jared's role in Kushner Companies — he was CEO but stepped down before Trump's inauguration.

    Meyer told the investors the Jersey City project she was pitching "means a lot to me and my entire family," according to The Times.

    The Beijing presentation featured at least one slide for investors that prominently featured Trump's face, labeling him a "key decision maker" in the visa process.

    Kushner, whose White House portfolio includes US-China relations, in January divested himself of "substantial assets" to comply with federal ethics statutes. Reuters reported that Kushner sold his stake in Kushner Companies to a family trust earlier this year, and his lawyer said in March that the adviser was complying with federal ethics rules.

    A spokesman for Kushner told The Washington Post that he would recuse himself from any administration decisions regarding the EB-5 program.

    In a statement provided to NPR, Kushner Companies said it "apologizes if that mention of [Meyer's] brother was in any way interpreted as an attempt to lure investors."

    Asked about the controversy during Monday's press briefing, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the presentations were not a violation of Kushner's ethics agreement.

    "Jared has done everything to comply with the ethics rules," Spicer said, adding that the presentations "had nothing to do with him, per se. He wasn't involved."

    But the second part of Spicer's statement didn't hold much weight with Painter.

    "Well, if Jared wasn't involved, he's got family members running around using his name to solicit money," he said. "And this is coming very, very close to solicitation of a bribe. I mean, they're asking for money to be paid to a government official in return for — they're promising favorable treatment on a visa. And then they're putting pictures up there of Donald Trump, and they're talking about how he works in the White House."
    I'm sure that there was no intent to commit this faux pas, it was just an innocent slip of the tongue as you can see from the photo taken during the presentation...they just don't know how that slide got added to the presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundealer View Post
    which he started building as soon as he was elected so that he could use all these international connections!!


    Why doesn't anyone understand that Trump had a life as a business person BEFORE becoming President??
    Unlike all the career politicians that run and live off the teat of the public, he was making his own money.
    How the hell would you know what kind of businessman he is? We haven't seen his tax returns to know that. Only in your world, where you don't want to admit you voted for a total asshole.

    His business was formed on his daddy's money. What he's done with it, we have no clue with no records to show for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyInAR View Post
    Maybe that is just one of many frigging reasons he shouldn't be president...well, that and because he is an unprincipled ignorant unwilling-to-learn petulant man-child with no scruples. Government such as we have cannot be run on the fly nor by amateurs; it should not be made available for those to use for their own purposes.

    Do you think he should be able to develop his foreign policy based on what is good for the Trump Organization's bottom line? Conflict-of-Intrest, it is written into our laws. Should Trump be exempt? IMO impeachment proceedings should have already commenced...our Congress is delict in their duties as is the VPOTUS.
    Thank Goodness our Constitution allows for ANY natural born citizen, over 35 to become President. No where in that document does it say they must be a lawyer, politician or statesman as a prerequisite. No where in that document does it say one must give up their livelihood to be President. I don't think the farm at Mt. Vernon shut down when Washington was President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb View Post
    How the hell would you know what kind of businessman he is? We haven't seen his tax returns to know that. Only in your world, where you don't want to admit you voted for a total asshole.

    His business was formed on his daddy's money. What he's done with it, we have no clue with no records to show for it.
    Nicely put.

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    How the hell would you know what kind of businessman he is? We haven't seen his tax returns to know that. Only in your world, where you don't want to admit you voted for a total asshole.

    His business was formed on his daddy's money. What he's done with it, we have no clue with no records to show for it.

    Let me explain this to you.
    His PERSONAL TAXES are just that. They only show what HE made.
    His BUSINESS TAXES are public record because they are what the BUSINESS(es) made. They are public because most of them involve other investors, stockholders and board members. You can look them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundealer View Post
    Thank Goodness our Constitution allows for ANY natural born citizen, over 35 to become President. No where in that document does it say they must be a lawyer, politician or statesman as a prerequisite. No where in that document does it say one must give up their livelihood to be President. I don't think the farm at Mt. Vernon shut down when Washington was President.
    My guess is that the founders thought the voting public would exercise some common sense when voting and selecting a president--sadly their crystal ball was broken and it didn't show them what would happen a couple of centuries plus hence. They missed realizing what stupid actions the voting public might actually be capable of and gave them way much more credit than they deserved.

    It is the conflicts-of-interest that is the problem...not that presidents had a life before...remember the uproar when the State Dept procured some of the books Obama had written to gift foreign governments??? That is nothing compared to what is currently going on. How did Washington use his position to enrich his farm during his tenure as president?

    Furthermore, our laws do address the conflicts-of-interest of all government employees and officials. The bottom line is that if Trump wasn't willing to make the sacrifices necessary to serve honorably as president, he should not have run. And it would seem his supporters don't give a damn whether there is any honor associated with his administration or not.

    Within some circles your defense of the White House resident deplorable might be commendable; but, it is a losing battle.
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    Is "peculiar behavior" a nice way of saying, "just plain stupid"?

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ions/22077402/
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    Bottom line with DA is that he is the consummate bullshitter He jumps from one bs story to another.

    This is just a few example of DA and his fools and their BS presidency.

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    why did he find the need to fire Comey--what an asshole
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    why did he find the need to fire Comey--what an asshole
    Actually Comey should have been fired for the stunt he pulled about 2 weeks before the election! However, my guess is that Trump wants to place someone who he believes he can get to squash the Trump campaign-Russian connection investigation. Apparently, dumbass doesn't remember that the beginning of the end for Nixon was when he fired Archibald Cox. Too late, I think that cat is our of the bag and regardless of what the FBI does from this point on--the Trump Campaign-Russian Connection investigation will go forward regardless if is is done by the FBI, any other investigative agency or investigation reporters. There is a lesson to be learned here--when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging dumbass! Flynn is still breathing and seeking immunity...Comey has nothing to lose now...and there is no honor amongst thieves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastcar View Post
    Bottom line with DA is that he is the consummate bullshitter He jumps from one bs story to another.

    This is just a few example of DA and his fools and their BS presidency.

    What I have a hard time understanding are those folks who were so upset with what they felt was Hillary's dishonesty and lying; yet, don't seem to have a problem with Trump who can out lie either Clinton on their best day...and does on a daily basis. It is as if Trump's mouth is moving or his fingers tweeting he is lying. Case in point:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewi.../#3a11de81ef82

    Here is a lie that serves no meaningful purpose, except that it is made by a small-handed man who can't seem to distinguish reality from his own fantasy...and too many Americans seem to be willing to live in that fantasy world with him. It is a symptom of a much more serious problem and to have such a person as the Commander-in-Chief and the president of our country is a sin and a shame that no thinking American should be proud of.

    Donald Trump Has Been Lying About The Size Of His Penthouse

    During the presidential race, Donald Trump left the campaign trail to give Forbes a guided tour of his three-story Trump Tower penthousepart of his decades-long crusade for a higher spot on our billionaire rankings. Gliding through his gilded home, he bragged that people have called his Manhattan aerie the "best apartment ever built" and emphasized its immense size (33,000 square feet) and value (at least $200 million). "I own the top three floorsthe whole floor, times three!" He admitted to having once had a neighbor, pointing to a door on the 66th floor. "I leased that little section to Michael Jackson. I knew him better than anybody."

    Those comments were typical Trump: boastful and inaccurate. We recently dug up New York City records showing that he still shares those floors with a neighbor and has been exaggerating the size of his own place by a factor of three.

    Records show Trump acquiring a 6,096-square-foot triplex apartment, occupying sections of floors 66 through 68, around the time Trump Tower opened in 1983. A decade later he expanded his penthouse, merging parts of two neighboring apartments into his home, according to the filings. The end result is 10,996 square feet of prime Manhattan real estatea massive residence, no doubt, but much smaller than what Trump claims to own. No records filed with the city indicate that he has added or shed square footage in the years since.

    As for that neighbor, it’s Joel R. Anderson, an Alabama businessman who has owned a 3,368-square-foot apartment on two of the floors since 1996. Anderson has been identified in the past as a member of the Trump Tower condo board and he reportedly raised more than $400,000 for a library foundation in his hometown of Florence, Ala. by hosting an event called the 2005 Donald Trump Library Benefit Dinner. (Anderson could not be reached for comment.)

    Together, Trump’s and Anderson’s penthouses combine for about 14,000 square feet. So where does Trump’s 33,000 square feet figure come from? It’s hard to tell. No one else lives on those floors, according to city records. Instead “common elements”things like hallways and elevatorsand mechanical space appear to take up the rest of the area Trump claims to live in. The residents of Trump Tower likely own these areas through their condo association, their stakes divvied up based on the size of their apartments.
    That includes Michael Jackson’s supposed penthouse: Records indicate the area Trump pointed to during the tour has never been a residence either. It appears to be mechanical space. (Jackson reportedly lived elsewhereon floor 63.)

    No Trump spokesperson would comment on any of this, so using the correct square footage, we estimate the president's pad is worth $64 million, less than a third of his number.


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    Comey should have been fired week one!

    I hope they (D's) continue looking into the Russian connection. It's their own little Benghazi!

    As for the penthouse, again public records can be easily accessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundealer View Post
    Comey should have been fired week one!

    I hope they (D's) continue looking into the Russian connection. It's their own little Benghazi!

    As for the penthouse, again public records can be easily accessed.
    What is your thoughts on why he should have been fired? Same as mine?

    Wouldn't you think that a sane rational person who knows that there is public record of the size of real estate for taxing purposes available to anyone, would have the few brain cells required to know how stupid it is to lie about it? What is he compensating for with the lies? Just another indication of mental illness and stupid decisions and actions.
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